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JAP Posted: Wed, May 30 2012 12:31 PM

Everything works great when sewing on my practice sandwich, but as soon as I start on the Baby Boston Common, the thread breaks or frays after about 15 inches of sewing.  My machine is a Janome 6600.  I have cleaned the machine, check to make sure everything is set up correctly, and am using quality thread.  I had the same problem with the last quilt I free motioned.  I talk the machine to the dealer.  They checked it out and said everything was fine.  And it is as long as you are sewing on a whole cloth practice sandwich.  Has anyone experienced this problem or have any ideas?

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Susie replied on Wed, May 30 2012 12:33 PM

I haven't, but I have a really dumb question.  What is fm stippling?  I get the fmq...learning how to do it now.  But I don't understand the stippling.

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gini replied on Wed, May 30 2012 1:53 PM

susie, stippling is the pattern of the free motion quilting you see in the above picture

jap,  i have this same issue.   i figured out my machine does not like the yli and king tut threads.  they work just fine on the practice piece and 12 inches into the quilt they break or ball up.   if i use my hopping foot, they will sew a little better with the threads.  i have two vikings a designer 1 and a sapphire.   they both do the same thing.

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Marie replied on Wed, May 30 2012 1:58 PM

jap is it happening mostly when you are trying to move in another direction, if so you must make those curves a little slower, per Nana to me a long time ago.  It does work much better.

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Annie replied on Wed, May 30 2012 2:08 PM

Jap,

I was just ready to post the same exact thing.  I have cleaned all the lint, rethread bobbin and needle umpteen times and changed out the needle and there is no rhyme or reason to the breakage.  Sometimes I can go for a long time, and other times thead balls up and breaks immediately!

I thought it might have to do with the fact that I ever so lightly spray basted my sandwhich.  I thought maybe inconsistant sprays makes the thread/needle unhappy????

Anyone who can help me would be so greatly appreciated!!!!

 

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JAP replied on Wed, May 30 2012 3:20 PM

Hi Susie,

  Google free motion stippling or free motion quilting on You Tube and you'll find some great videos

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Kris replied on Wed, May 30 2012 3:28 PM

JAP:
Everything works great when sewing on my practice sandwich, but as soon as I start on the Baby Boston Common, the thread breaks or frays after about 15 inches of sewing

Your needle eye might be too small for the thread you're using or it could be the wrong needle for that type of thread.

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JAP replied on Wed, May 30 2012 4:33 PM

Annie,

  Yes, I did baste with spray following Ann Petersen's method.  I could have a few heavy spots.  I have had trouble with this in the past, but the needle felt gummy.  It doesn't feel gummy today.

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JAP replied on Wed, May 30 2012 4:34 PM

Thanks for the info.  I have now sewn a large section without the thread breaking.

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JAP replied on Wed, May 30 2012 4:35 PM

Marie,  this could also be a problem.  I do tend to move fast on the upside of the curve.  I'll try to slow down.

 

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JAP replied on Wed, May 30 2012 4:38 PM

I am using Mettlers Metrosene Plus polyester thread and a size 12 Janome needle. 

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Stephanie replied on Wed, May 30 2012 6:10 PM

JAP,

If you are doing ok on your practice sandwiches, I 'm inclined to agree with Marie. Moving a bulky quilt under the needle you may have to slow down some. I have had this happen too. My older machine has a certain speed that seems to wreak havoc on breaking thread. It happens when I speed up and the foot starts floating and stops going up and down. I run into trouble everytime.  

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Barbara replied on Wed, May 30 2012 9:01 PM

Jap,I have a 6600 and it does the same thing ,I had to change needles and retread it a couple of times and it finally stopped,  Very frustrating, . I have also found if my bobbin thread is not place on the bobbins straight it to will cause this to happen,  You'll get it figured out it just may take a few different ideas. if you find the best one let us know .Barbara

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JAP replied on Wed, May 30 2012 10:11 PM

I have had lots of good suggestions to try.  

  

  •        Try a size 14 needle.
  •        Press seams open on future quilts to elimate bulk.
  •       It could be the basting spray, needle, or thread.
  •      Move the quilt sandwich at an even speed.

I'll let you know when I pinpoint the problem.

 

     

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BenAdmin replied on Thu, May 31 2012 10:02 PM

I'm no expert, but size 100 or 110 topstitching needles will help (they have a larger eye). 

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